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Renteria's Defense Getting Offensive 
by Tim Daloisio


Wednesday, May 04, 2005

When Edgar Renteria replaced Orlando Cabrera in between Bill Mueller and Mark Bellhorn in the infield at Fenway Park, Red Sox fans expected to see a solid defensive shortstop with good range, making few mistakes.

Unfortunately for Renteria, who has been struggling at the plate, Red Sox fans have seen anything but that.

With six errors in twenty five starts at shortstop of the Boston Red Sox, Renteria is on pace for a career high 36 errors. Renteria's previous high was twenty seven errors in 2000 and he has averaged around twenty errors a year at shortstop over the course of his career.

So far this season, Renteria has been pressing. According to Red Sox broadcaster Jerry Remy, Renteria is trying too hard in the field to make up for a slow start at the plate.
"He's been too good a player too long for this to continue" - Jerry Remy on Dennis & Callahan, WEEI 5/4/05
The types of errors that Renteria is making backs up Remy's thinking. Throughout 2004 with St. Louis, Renteria committed only eleven errors. Of those, only two were of the throwing variety.

Already this year, Renteria has three throwing errors. He is getting to as many balls as he usually does, but in his haste to not make a mistake, he is steering his throws. And before we go blaming the quality first baseman scooping those balls, Kevin Millar and Albert Pouljos are not any different in the field (unfortunately, we can't say that at the plate).


Chart represents the range of an average shortstop vs. Renteria in 2004 with the left side of the graph being balls hit towards 3rd base and the right side, balls up the middle.

By looking at David Pinto's new graphical analysis of defensive efficiency, you can see that Renteria is a consistent player in the field. He creates the outs that are expected of him and is better than expected at the ball up the middle.

For whatever reason, Renteria is not as good going to his right as his left. In my opinion, it is because of his use of the backhand vs. getting in front of many balls hit to his right. But this graph could easily be corrupted by the infield mates Renteria played with last year (Gold Glove 3rd baseman Scott Rolen and below average 2nd baseman Tony Womack). With Rolen and Womack on either side, I am sure that Renteria cheated to his left to fill a potential hole up the middle while being covered on the right by Rolen.


Chart represents the same range as above, but for line drives as opposed to ground balls.

Where Renteria does excel is in using his 6'1" frame to snare line drives on the glove side.

But how does he compare to other shortstops that we were familiar with?

He is better than Nomar.


Nomar's range isn't equal to Renteria's.

And very comparable to Orlando Cabrera.


Cabrera is better at the flashy plays at either end of the graph, but similar to Renteria nearer to the SS position.

If we compare these players using other defensive efficiency ratios, you see similar trends.
2004  Nomar Cabrera Renteria
Fielding % 0.970 0.978 0.983
Range Factor 3.94 4.39 4.41
Zone Rating 0.753 0.838 0.855
The difference between Renteria this year and last year isn't found as much in his range (4.37, .849) as his fielding percentage (.947). As we have seen, this is mainly due to throwing errors that haven't been a problem for Renteria in the past.

So what should we expect from Renteria this year in the field? Like Cabrera when he came in last year and struggled defensively early before settling in, I think Renteria is experiencing those same moving pains. Like Remy said, he has been too good for too long to be this bad for the entire season.

It is time for Red Sox Nation to exercise something with Renteria's defense that doesn't come second nature to us; patience.

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Comments:
Renteria took money that could have been used for Pedro, and he's not even as good as Cabrera.

Theo should be fired.

Christos
 
Christos, I agree 100%.

Sox should have:
Kept Cabrera (saved $8 million over 4 years)
Signed V-Tek to his market value (3 years, $8 per, $24 million, saving the Sox $16 million)
Never signed Clement ($27 million)
Never signed Wells ($9 million?)

The Sox could have saved $24 million between Rentaria and V-Tek, and used that money for Pedro's 4th year and still had $10 million left over.

But noooooo. Assholes like Tim and bostondirtdogs.com and Theo had to run Pedro out of town.

Matt Clement? What a joke.

Pat Price
 
FIRE THEO!

BRING BACK PEDRO!


Nate B.
 
(a) Where did I run Pedro out of town. I would have been thrilled to sign him to a three year deal at more than he made on a yearly basis elsewhere. I just questioned the fourth year and its value.

(b) Never lump me an bostondirtdogs.com into the same category. He does treat people with no respect and slanders them along the way with unsubstantiated shit.

(c) I only layed into Pedro after the signing because of statements he made about how it all went down. Neither side negotiated above board. They both had big egos and it prevented a deal from being made.

(d) Are you all on the Pedro PR payroll or something.....there are plenty other things to argue abou than people that aren't on this team anymore.
 
ohhhh and Pat Price.....if you think I am an asshole (from where you were able to deduce that, I am not sure)....but since you do think that...feel free to not read my shit.
 
Tim,

If you really think that Pedro is going to suck in 2008, then you have bought into Larry Lucchino's latest smear campain and are not smart. Pedro is a world class athlete who people like you have been doubting since he was with the Dodgers.

In 2008, Pedro will still be better than Matt Clement is today.

I'd worry more about the fourth year offered to V-Tek. $10 million is a lot to pay a DH who isn't that great a hitter to begin with.

Can't believe the racism in Boston. Just couldn't stomach bringing a Dominican back for his 11th season in Beantown. Sign shithead V-Tek to 4 years instead.

Pat Price
 
Tim,

you write good stories, but you come off as a typical Boston Pedro hater.

People have been doubting Pedro his whole career. With the dodgers, with the Expos (sox were only team willing to give pedro a 7 year deal, why they got him), after the 2001 injury (he is 53-17 with a sub 2.75 era and cy young since), and now. All he does is prove you haters wrong.

Now the big thing is whether he'd be good for 3 or 4 years? Bullshit. That's not a 3 year deal compared to a 8 year deal. It is one more year. Even if Pedro is only the equivilant of a $8 million guy in 2008, he's at a huge discount this year(Roger is getting $18, and Pedro is better).

And people who don't think Theo had anything to do with it, open your eyes. Theo lowballed Pedro intentionally so that Pedro would feel disrespected and go elsewhere.

Pat
 
Theo is a piece of garbage. Lowballing Pedro to disrespect him.

Did anybody really think that Pedro would only get 2 years on the open market?

FIRE THEO!!

Nate B.
 
People who get worried about Pedro in 2007 & 2008 make me laugh. Pedro will be fine. He's a gamer. Always has been.

People who don't think the V-Tek signing was risky also make me laugh. In 2008, V-Tek is going to be a bad hitting Mike Piazza.

Jack Clark 1991-1992
v
Jason Varitek 2007-2008

I think it should be a draw.
.210-.240 hitter
10-15 HR
DH

$10 million per season.

'Tos
 
Great article. Could you explain the charts a little more in depth? Great information.

What's with all the Pedro talk? I love Pedro, and hate Theo for lowballing Pedro in the winter and disrespecting him, but this is a pretty cool article. I'm all for a good Theo bashing, but there is a time and a place.

Still, got to respect Tim for his lack of censorship in the comment section. Definitely a plus.
 
Is there anybody out there who feel that Rentaria is as good as Cabrera?

If so, why?

I like watching Orlando play for the love last year rather than watching Edgar play to cash a pay check.

Hilliarious comparison regarding Jason Varietk in 2007-08 and Jack Clark from his Sox days.

Here is another comparison you older Sox fans will enjoy.

Edgar Renteria = Ed Romero

.250 hitting SS with a little pop in his bat.

Keep up the good work, Tim.
 
YOU'RE AN ASS FOR LETTING THE SITE DIE.
 
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